In part one, I outlined how a series of recent changes that American Express have made to Membership Rewards have significantly increased the value of Membership Rewards points, and why MR is now my primary way of earning points from Credit Card spend.
That post focused on a comparison of oneworld carrier redemptions as a starting point. In this I’ll look at some example Singapore Airlines, Air New Zealand, Virgin Australia and Virgin Atlantic redemptions.
UPDATE – I’ve also outlined another one of the best uses of Membership Rewards points, Malaysia Airlines Enrich redemptions, which I didn’t touch on in this post.
Here’s a reminder of the recent developments that have changed the landscape for points earning –
- The change in transfer rate for Asia Miles to 1 Membership Reward = 1 Asia Mile
- The change in transfer rate for Starwood Preferred Guest to 1 Membership Reward point = 0.5 SPG points
- The addition of Etihad to Membership Rewards at a 1:1 transfer rate
- Singapore Airlines opening up KrisFlyer award space at the lowest saver level on 777 and A380 operated routes
These are the assumptions I’m making in the comparison below –
- Spend on an American Express Membership Reward credit card is your primary way of earning points
- You want to redeem your points for travel in Business or First Class cabins, for medium to long haul routes
- You’re not looking to capitalise on Qantas Any Seat Awards, where you can earn status credits to prop up your hunt for Qantas elite status
- The ability to earn a larger Membership Rewards balance, than if you used a Visa or Mastercard only. I personally believe this is possible – points not accrued from Merchants that don’t accept Amex is offset by some higher earn rates on cards like the Platinum Edge, and seasonal bonuses at other merchants. With a bit of thought and consideration of where you direct your card spend, it should be possible to earn more MR points than that through a direct earn Qantas, Virgin or KrisFlyer card – at least in my opinion.
Given that, here’s the comparison between Velocity, KrisFlyer, Etihad Guest and Virgin Atlantic Flying Club.
Note that I haven’t factored in the 15% discount given to online redemptions for KrisFlyer.
Velocity | Etihad | KrisFlyer | VA Flying Club | Qantas FF | ||
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Singapore Airlines | First Class | one way | one way | one way | one way | one way |
Sydney | New York | 400,000 | - | 137,500 | - | 192,000 |
Sydney | London | 400,000 | - | 132,500 | - | 192,000 |
Melbourne | Singapore | 120,000 | - | 75,000 | - | 90,000 |
Singapore | Hong Kong | 75,000 | - | 37,500 | - | 56,000 |
Singapore Airlines | Business Class | |||||
Singapore | Hong Kong | 60,000 | - | 27,500 | - | 38,000 |
Singapore | Bangkok | 30,000 | - | 20,000 | - | 26,000 |
Melbourne | Singapore | 120,000 | - | 55,000 | - | 60,000 |
Sydney | New York | 300,000 | - | 107,500 | - | 128,000 |
Sydney | London | 300,000 | - | 95,000 | - | 128,000 |
Etihad | First Class | |||||
Melbourne | London | 187,500 | 172,594 | - | - | 192,000 |
Sydney | New York | 187,500 | 232,599 | - | - | 192,000 |
Etihad | Business Class | |||||
Sydney | New York | 125,000 | 185,217 | - | - | 128,000 |
Melbourne | Frankfurt | 110,000 | 132,340 | - | - | 128,000 |
Virgin Australia | Business Class | |||||
Sydney | Abu Dhabi | 94,000 | 140,000 | 100,000 | - | - |
Sydney | Los Angeles | 94,000 | 140,000 | 120,000 | - | 96,000 |
Air New Zealand | Business Class | |||||
Sydney | Auckland | 33,800 | 34,000 | 30,000 | 36,000 | |
Sydney | Los Angeles, via AKL | 140,000 | 210,000 | 125,000 | - | |
Virgin Atlantic | Upper Class | |||||
Sydney | Hong Kong | 57,800 | - | 40,000 | 60,000 | |
Sydney | London | 125,000 | - | 95,000 (on SQ) | 100,000 | 128,000 |
Once again, one program consistently comes out on top of this set, and this time it’s KrisFlyer for most redemptions. For each comparison, KrisFlyer redemptions at the saver level are significantly cheaper than through Qantas – although of course are on different airlines with different levels of service.
This isn’t anything new – KrisFlyer’s chart has long been competitive, and the transfer rate from Membership Rewards to KrisFlyer has not changed recently. But what did change was the opening up of more ‘saver’ award availability through KrisFlyer on Singapore Airlines A380 and 777 routes back in February.
It’s also worth remembering –
- Virgin Atlantic Flying Club is very competitive – for each of the routes I compared, and including their partners, Flying Club has excellent value – but of course Virgin Atlantic has limited routes and partners to play with.
- Velocity redemptions are best value on their home turf – on Virgin Australia – but are also good for Etihad, with cheaper costs on the routes I sampled than Etihad Guest redemptions
- Etihad redemptions are rarely great value, but could be used at a pinch if no other award availability is showing in other programs.
- The KrisFlyer redemptions above are, most likely, going to be 15% cheaper in real life once you factor in the online redemption discount
- And, as an aside, it’s also possible to transfer Flying Club miles out of the program to Hilton HHonors – at 1:2 this is actually a better rate than you receive through transferring from Membership Rewards directly
Where does this leave us? Again, showing that Membership Rewards is now great value. You get options to transfer to any of these programs, meaning you can accrue points and work out where you want to redeem later. Banking them into Qantas Frequent Flyer is possibly the worst thing you can do, unless you already have a decent Qantas balance you’re trying to improve on.
It also leaves me wanting to make a comparison of AsiaMiles vs KrisFlyer redemptions – coming up in the next (and last) post in the series.
References
- KrisFlyer saver availability changes
- KrisFlyer award chart at March 2012(pdf), and online mileage calculator
- Virgin Atlantic Flying Club mileage calculator and partner charts
- Virgin Australia Velocity award charts
- Etihad Guest partner award charts.
Singapore seems to have optons every day to everywhere. The others have nothing, ever. Or am I doing something wrong??
Im currently looking to get from SYD- LAX or New York in July in Business Clas…
Etihad is offering 370,000 odd points
Virgin no award seats so have 917,000
Qantas – nothing in Business the whole month..typical
Singapore (god bless them) 182,750
Apart from SQ, the others are simply laughable.Am i doing something wrong? I always use SQ because this happens everytime i hunt around
I suspect one reason SQ availability is so good is that they only recently opened up more award availability into their saver category. Perhaps this still out there for the taking, rather than SQ being good in general – hard to know.
I’d be interested to hear how much time you’ve spent doing research for your bookings? It’s such a time suck.
I ditched Qantas for using points about 3 years ago. When they added that Points + Pay, the actual award seats seemed to disappear. I havent used Virgin or Etihad before, but checked their sites and randomly searched dates over the next 6mths. Virgin had NO award seats on ANY date i searched for 6months! But had 917,000 in the award + pay category and Etihad 370,000 points. Does anyone ever use these fares?? why would u when SQ is 90% less points than Virgin and 70% less than Etihad!!
SQ has had availability generally within a day or two, of any date I have ever searched ,for any destination at any time, and usually at saver fares less the 15%.
I dont think availability with SQ being good is recent or because they opened up more saver awards. I think its that they are good in general. This is my experience over the last few years. have got seats on exact dates I wanted in business class to Barcelona, Singapore and Bangkok in recent year. You could always get saver fare in the past you just had to choose flight that wasn’t on an A380. So its even better with more saver fares on all aircraft types.
I just wonder if I am the only one who experiences this. I cant imagine why anyone would even contemplate using an airline other than SQ. Why would u bother? Is everyone else the same?
Reading your experiences, it sounds like a great program, if you can crank enough spend through a linked card or through your travel habits.
I assume you earn most of your KF points through credit card spend, probably Membership Rewards?
I don’t think you’re the only one in on this in Australia, there are some pretty active KF discussions over in the AFF forum, but obviously for QF with increased demand for seats (more points in the market) comes reduced supply, which doesn’t help anyone.
The savvier points spenders definitely should look away from QF for real value.
1. Keys flyer online discount not applied. In my opinion you would need your head read to not take advantage of this so why ignore
2. The idea of using MR for everything. For many the best is to have a MR Amex AND a Visa and for each transaction use the best card!
1 – I’m just highlighting that KF is great value even without that discount. If you factor it in, they are even cheaper, but it’s the same conclusion – KF is now much better value than QFF 2 – definitely not suggesting you don’t have a visa or MC as a backup – just that Amex has to, in my book, be your primary method of earning, it’s just that much better value.