Asia miles removes free stopovers on one-way awards
How to use Asia miles: insider tips on bookings, award holds and transfers
What we'll be covering
We know that not many travellers are booking trips right now due to COVID-19 but this is an important change for our readers to be aware of for future redemptions.
One of the more useful benefits of Cathay Pacific’s Asia miles program has been the ability to get a free stopover on one-way redemptions. However, the program has announced the following:
Stopover duration will…[from 1 April 2020]…be limited to a maximum of 24 hours for Asia miles Awards and Airline Partners Awards.
For example, if you redeem an itinerary with Cathay Pacific from Taipei to Bangkok, transiting through Hong Kong, the maximum duration for your stopover in Hong Kong is 24 hours. If the duration is more than 24 hours, you are required to make two separate bookings, with Taipei to Hong Kong as the first booking, and Hong Kong to Bangkok as the second.
This policy change brings it into line with most other programs, like Qantas and Velocity Frequent Flyer.
Previously, you could fly Cathay Pacific Business Class from Sydney to London for 85,000 miles, with a stopover of up to a whole year in Hong Kong, if you wanted.
Now, if you make a stopover (24+ hours) rather than a layover (under 24 hours), the two segments will be charged separately, 45,000 + 65,000 = 110,000, which is a 25,000-mile increase in cost for this example.
How to still get free stopovers using Asia miles
On roundtrip tickets, you can still book two free stopovers and one open-jaw. You cannot book stopovers online—you must phone the call centre to do so.
Another good option is to leverage the oneworld Multi-Carrier Award Chart to book a round-the-world trip. You’ll get five stopovers and two open-jaws on this type of ticket.
Summing up
It’s a shame to see this benefit removed for Asia miles members. However, to be honest, it’s very rare these days that frequent flyer programs offer free stopovers on one-way redemptions (Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan is an exception to that rule).
Our original guide on tips to use Asia miles follows.
How to use Asia miles: insider tips on stopovers, award holds and transfers
Asia miles is an appealing frequent flyer program for Australian points collectors. It has a wide range of points earn partners, including most of the major credit card rewards programs in Australia.
However, the program is not without its intricacies and quirks. It helps to understand the various ins and outs when you come to make a redemption through Asia miles.
In this guide, I’ll show you how to redeem Asia miles effectively. I go over how to book online and over the phone. I also answer whether you can book stopovers and award holds through the program.
The basics of Asia miles
Cathay is Cathay Pacific’s points program. (For elite status, you’ll need to look at the separate Marco Polo Club.)
Asia miles can be used for travel on Cathay Pacific and oneworld partners like Qantas. They offer great value for long-haul travel in First, Business and Premium Economy Class.
Here are some examples of sweet spots with Asia miles (all one-way):
- Any Australian city to Hong Kong in Cathay Pacific Premium Economy for 30,000 miles
- Melbourne to Tokyo in Qantas or Japan Airlines Business for 70,000 miles
- Sydney to Los Angeles in Qantas First for 120,000 miles
Which Asia miles partner flights can you book online?
You can use your Asia miles online with the following partners: Cathay Pacific, Cathay Dragon, Alaska Airlines, British Airways, Finnair, Iberia, Japan Airlines, LATAM, Malaysia Airlines, Qantas, Qatar Airways, Royal Jordanian Airlines, S7 Airlines and SriLankan Airlines.
However, you will need to phone Asia miles on 1800 129 264 (open 24/7) for bookings with all other partners. Examples include Air Canada, Air New Zealand and Lufthansa.
When is the best time to call Asia miles?
The best time to call Asia miles from Australia is before 8am Australian Eastern Standard Time. (The call centre in Hong Kong is 2-3 hours behind, depending on daylight savings.) Hold times are much shorter at this time. It is open 24/7.
The call centre can be a very hit-and-miss affair. It’s best to set aside an hour to make a redemption over the phone. If you speak Cantonese or Mandarin, choosing this option from the menu may reduce your wait time.
Can you put Asia miles awards on hold?
Sometimes. Here is what we know:
- Awards can be put on hold under ‘specific circumstances’
- The request must be approved by a supervisor
- Holds seem to be for up to three weeks (!)
- It helps to have at least 70% of the required miles already in your account
- Cathay Pacific flights seem to be guaranteed when on hold
- Conversely, partner airline flights are not guaranteed and can be booked by other passengers in the meantime
Putting an award on hold can be helpful when you are waiting for points to transfer over from a credit card rewards program. This way you can hold a seat and then confirm it when the points arrive in your Asia miles account.
Which Australian credit cards transfer to Asia miles?
Asia miles partners with the following credit card programs in Australia:
- American Express Membership Rewards (2-3 days to transfer)
- ANZ Rewards
- Citi Rewards (for Citi Prestige cardholders only)
- CommBank Awards
- NAB Rewards
- Westpac Altitude Rewards (1-2 days to transfer)
Make sure that the names on your credit card rewards and Asia miles accounts match exactly. This will help to prevent delays.
Here are some other ways to boost your Asia miles balance.
Summing up
There is good value to be had from the Asia miles frequent flyer program. Therefore, it pays to know the ins and outs of how it works—and how you can maximise its benefits.
You can book all Cathay Pacific and most partner flights online. However, if you do need to call, the shortest wait times are during the early morning in Australia.
Asia miles allows stopovers on both one-way and roundtrip tickets. However, you must book these over the phone. Another option is to book a round-the-world trip with up to five stopovers.
Points can take a few days to arrive from your bank’s program. Therefore, you may want to explore the option of putting an award on hold. Just be aware you’ll have to phone up to do this and the hold is not guaranteed.
Related guides
- A beginner’s guide to Asia miles →
- The highest-earning Asia miles credit cards →
- How to book a round-the-world trip with Asia miles →
- All Point Hacks Asia miles guides →
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Has anyone had any luck redeeming anything from AsiaMiles lately?!! Trying to get 2 seats from Europe (BUD preferably, but anywhere will do) to ADL in December and seems to be absolutely nothing with CX or any partners for any dates in any class. Out of interest tried dates in random months throughout 2022, nothing.
CX has drastically cut it’s Euro network and days they are flying so I assume won’t be much luck there, but maybe on partners?
Rang the service centre, helpful checking dates, but had no idea about when/if seats will be released. Obviously it seems like it’s not the usual 365 days like it has been in the past.
Is this beginning of the end for AsiaMiles????
Many thanks,
https://www.asiamiles.com/en/support/latest-news/detail.html/new-flight-award-rules-and-fees
I was promised (and had put on hold) that a CX SIN – HKG fare would become available for about 6 months before our desired dates, and it ended up never coming up, causing a $1200 out of pocket expense to our trip 😛
Their call centre is absolutely useless (the operators don’t know the names of cities, nor which airlines fly there etc. etc. and they have absolutely no power to bend rules in extenuating circumstances).
Message to Cathay Pacific: when you outsource your call centre to The Philippines, you get what you pay for …
P.S. I have plenty of Filipino friends and colleagues, so there’s nothing racial here, just a comment on the lack of customer service.
I have a quick question. I’m looking to book a return business class from SYD to HKG, then from HKG to mainland China (in economy class). I read on Asia miles that mix cabin bookings are allowed but can’t find any other information about it. From some other forum, I read that they will still charge you business class miles for the economy leg, is that true? Should I just book them separately, and just check-in for my connecting flight at HKG.
It would be great if anyone can give me some advice on this.
Thanks
Ed
I had just over half the number of points in my Asia Miles account needed for a business award flight (redemption booking). I spoke to 2 agents on the phone (Marco Polo Club service centre) and the official policy is they can only put award flights on hold if you have 70% of the required points in your account.
However, on the second occasion, I persisted (only a little!) and the agent agreed to hold the award seat for one week (she even apologised for it not being a long time, since I am only 2.5 weeks away from departure date). I then transferred my Amex points over and the ticket was issued a couple of days later.
No idea if there’s any connection with being a Marco Polo Club member or if any Asia Miles member could request to hold an award booking. It doesn’t hurt to try anyway!
Thanks, Ula
For those that can speak Mandarin or Cantonese, I would suggest choosing these language options when contacting AM, as there is almost never any wait time to speak to a phone agent I have found, unlike the English option where I too, used to wait 40+ minutes.
Seems you have to book your trip one year in advance to redeem your hard earned miles.
1. They held my booking for about a day to let me make up my mind.
2. Website did not let me book two tickets together even though both passengers had sufficient points in their own right – so had to do this via call centre. (Krisflyer is much easier because points can be transferred to other redemption nominees at no charge)
3. Required points were higher if they were using partner airlines.
4. Easier to break the trip eg Melbourne to Hong Kong then Hong Kong to Munich to have a higher chance of getting reward flights.
5. Call centre can be hard to contact – one day I could not get through at all – but evening seems to be better. But generally helpful once you get through.
6. The 3 to 4 day delay in transferring points was a bit harrowing with risk of available flights disappearing.
7. I spent many hours on the website and with the call centre attempting to understand the process
I thought I already shared with you my bad experience?
I tried to ask AM to change their pricing on their website and they agreed but obviously they haven’t done it.
For AM, I would stick to the most direct route to be certain of the mileage needed. But that still may not always be accurate. If you search SYD-HND on QF, it will show 70k/120k oneway and rt respectively, even though it should be 45k/80k. (I know because I redeem JAL SYD-NRT rt for 80k in J, then upgraded to F for 120k. HND should be closer so no reason price is higher).
I will always call and ask to be sure before transferring miles.
I find Syd Hong Kong route mostly on waiting. I’ve been a big fan of Krisflyer but lately noticed Cathay’ taxes are much lower than Kris, e.g. sy to HK return was less than $300, almost half of Kris unless it was a web error as in your case.
I would say the only reason I would transfer AMEX MR to Asia Miles is to redeem CX First class, since those seats seem to be blocked on certain routes i.e Paris, London, New York for 1W partners.
Like there have been instances where CX had 2F award seats for Asia Miles members for HKG-JFK, but it was not available to the 1W partners.
I think you summed it up perfectly, for the extra 5k MR, you were probably better off using the the AMEX=SPG=AA method.
Although AA doesn’t charge that approx $300AUD taxes ($2400HK) or $770AUD ($4000HK), for a 12-13 hour, i think thats the $2400HK is reasonable.
It would be interesting though, how much Asia Miles will charge for fuel charges for a Biz RTW ticket.
I think with QF, its around $2000-3,000 per person? But I’m not 100% sure. A friend of mine redeem 2 QF F seats, Melbourne to London return, and it cost $1,800 in taxes per person.
I’m a bit of a novice Asia Miles user myself. I was looking to book a rtw J for a friend for SYD-HKG but the dates I want are unavailable. I’m a gold member (complimentary due to my AMEX platinum charge) and have been waitlisted for the flights I want. The booking went through with a reference number issued but no payment made. I currently have 0 miles but can transfer over from AMEX MR if need. Does anyone have experience on likelyhood of me getting those flights and what are my obligations (i.e. do I have to buy if I change my mind)?
Thx muchly.
I don’t disagree with allocating an hour to talk on the phone, but it wasn’t a 40 minute wait time. From the several calls I made, I would estimate the average wait time to be about 15-20 minutes. What really took long though was finding availability and dates. We had a fairly complicated itinerary where I wanted KUL-CDG, and somewhere else in Europe back to KUL I also found that there was quite limited availability (I was trying to book for 2 people in J class).
We ended up booking KUL-CDG via Doha on Qatar, returning EDI-KUL via Doha also on Qatar. Taxes were also a lot more expensive than I had anticipated.
The most tiring part was having to look at a Qatar Airways route map whilst on the phone with the Asia Miles representative. I was looking at all the major European cities trying to find a return flight, blurting out city after city and date after date. Availability was scarce to say the least, and we were only able to book the return flight for a date about a week later than our ideal dates. Flying out from Edinburgh wasn’t our preference, but we could only pick between Edinburgh and Milan.
Only being able to check availability for CX/BA/QF flights online is very annoying. Availability/bookings on any other partner airline must be done over phone.
My experience also educated me on the rough process on redemptions with Asia Miles in a slightly different way to you.
If you wish to combine airlines, that is fine as long as one of them is CX (e.g. MH, CX). Otherwise you must fly one airline and only one airline. I believe this is the case regardless of what class of travel you wish to book in.
It took a bit of digging to find the available dates but once I found availability it was a pretty simple process. I think if it is a direct flight there is much less hassle. On more complicated routes I believe other programs are far more competent.
nice that AM has the 350 day availability so can jump in before the AA/USDM crowd.