Using your frequent flyer points to fly to Europe is high on many of our reader’s wishlists. And to make it happen, Qatar Airways is a prime pick for a few reasons – good route connectivity in Australia and beyond being a crucial one. It also doesn’t hurt that Qatar Airways’ Business Class experience is regarded as one of the best in the industry.
The challenge, as with most other major airlines, is finding and booking those reward seats. To help you, we’ve compared the five most relevant points ‘currencies’ for Australian frequent flyers when it comes to redeeming points for Qatar Airways flights, to see which are the easiest to use and which offers the best rates. Those programs are:
- Qantas Frequent Flyer
- Velocity Frequent Flyer
- Qatar Airways Privilege Club
- Cathay Asia Miles
- American Airlines AAdvantage
Of course, these tips aren’t exclusive to the Qatar Airways Business Class. It’s the same concept for the airline’s Economy and First Class cabins as well – just the points and taxes needed will differ.
Tips on searching for Qatar Airways reward seats
You can expect to see Qatar Airways seats released from 361 days before departure, including on the airline’s own Privilege Club scheme. But some partner programs won’t see those seats until later on as their calendars may only stretch to 330 days (such as with both Virgin Australia and American Airlines).
Though it’s not perfect, a good place to search for a monthly view of Qatar Airways flights is on the American Airlines website. You can filter results by cabin class and look at non-stop options only, which is an efficient way to sleuth out the rare seats.
Then you can take that information and book online through the other partner airline websites (depending on which points or miles you want to use).
In the example above, I see that Saturday 4 February 2023 has a Business Class seat from Melbourne to Doha. Checking the Virgin Australia website yields the same results, which I can book with Velocity Points. The same goes for using Cathay’s Asia Miles.
Limitations with partner programs
Unfortunately, the Asia Miles calendar seems to be limited to seeing Qatar Airways flights from only 119 days before departure, which makes it difficult to plan trips when other partner programs have access more than 200 days earlier.
Access to Qatar Airways reward seats through Qantas Frequent Flyer is even more heavily restricted at the time of writing – no Business or First Class seats appear on the Qantas website at all (at the time of writing). Only Economy is available when I check. I’ve tried calling up and it’s the same story there.
We understand that this isn’t Qantas’ fault – it seems to be an issue with Qatar Airways. Still, it’s a frustrating situation for those with a huge stash of Qantas Points.
Which program offers the best value on Qatar Airways flights?
Australia-Europe flights tend to be in the highest ‘zone’ or pricing for reward seats, so it’s easy to compare costs across the five programs. Here’s a summary of the points and approximate cash you’ll need for a one-way Business Class flight from Melbourne to London.
Qatar Airways Melbourne-London in Business | Airline points/miles required (one-way) | AMEX Membership Rewards points equivalent | Approximate taxes required (converted to AUD) |
---|---|---|---|
Qantas Points | 159,000 | 318,000 (Ascent Premium only) | $646 |
Velocity Points | 139,000 | 278,000 | $775 |
Privilege Club Avios | 90,000 | 180,000 | $350 |
Asia Miles | 90,000 | 180,000 | $635 |
AAdvantage miles | 85,000 | N/A | $140 |
Using Qantas Points
This is all theoretical at the time of writing, as I can’t find anything bookable in Business Class.
But if you could, it would cost you 159,000 Qantas Points to fly from Melbourne to London in Qatar Airways Business Class. Taxes are around AU$646 one-way, and I only know this because I have a confirmed booking made before all the availability dried up.
Using Velocity Points
Velocity Frequent Flyer has a cheaper partner points table than Qantas, so Melbourne to London on Qatar Airways will set you back 139,000 Velocity Points one-way. The cash payment is the highest out of all the programs though, at AU$775. This is due to the carrier charges that Velocity levy.
On the plus side, availability in Business Class is excellent and mostly mirrors what is available to Qatar Airways’ own members.
Using Asia Miles
You’ll only need 90,000 Asia Miles to fly Qatar Airways from Melbourne to London. If you’re transferring points from a bank program, that means you’ll need far fewer points to fly compared to transferring to Velocity Frequent Flyer.
But the main issue is that Asia Miles has far more restrictive availability than Velocity. Our suggestion is to only transfer points to Asia Miles if you can see a bookable reward seat.
Asia Miles also passes on all taxes and surcharges on partner redemptions. The out-of-pocket cost on this route is AU$635 one-way, which is broadly similar to Qantas.
Using Privilege Club Avios
Qatar Airways’ own Privilege Club members enjoy the best access to Business Class reward seats. The main problem is that it’s hard to come by Avios in Australia, as there aren’t any local transfer partners. You can buy Avios on sale or consider the British Airways Avios subscription to boost your balance.
British Airways, Qatar Airways and Iberia are the main airlines that share the Avios ecosystem. You can transfer those Avios at a 1:1 rate to Privilege Club to book these reward seats.
Fees and taxes are around AU$350 one-way, which is quite reasonable.
Using AAdvantage miles
Somewhat ironically – given the previous feud between the two airlines – travellers savvy enough to have a stash of American Airlines AAdvantage miles are the best off when it comes to flying Qatar Airways.
Not only does American Airlines have the best search interface, but members only need to redeem 85,000 AAdvantage miles and pay the equivalent of AU$140 for a one-way Business Class from Melbourne to London. What a steal.
You can buy AAdvantage miles on sale, but otherwise, there’s no easy way to earn them in bulk in Australia.
Summing up
It’s great to have Qatar flying from five Australian cities, including Brisbane. The carrier certainly offers strong competition on the Middle East routes, especially with Australian travellers being able to experience their newer aircraft. Sydney and Perth are graced with the Airbus A380 – but Brisbane, Melbourne and Adelaide get the swanky Qsuites Business Class.
Right now, Velocity Points are the easiest accessible points ‘currency’ to use on Qatar Airways in Australia. But you do also pay the most in carrier charges. On the other hand, Privilege Club Avios and AAdvantage miles offer excellent redemption rates and low fees and taxes, but those points are quite difficult to collect in Australia.
Qantas Points used to be a decent way to book Qatar Airways flights, but unfortunately, there are practically no premium cabin rewards available to Qantas members right now. Talk within the industry is that Qatar Airways and Qantas aren’t getting along, particularly with the Red Roo’s strong partnership with Emirates.
But we can only hope the situation mellows out in time and that members can use their Qantas Points to fly to Doha and beyond, once again.
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Also, not sure its true but I am seeing more J/F avaliability in June 2025 leaving from Auckland (connecting on business to SYD) than leaving from SYD itself. So come across to AKL for a few days before heading to Europe.
If I call Qantas direct, will they have the seat?
Great lounges and flights though!!
There are times when the AA site doesn’t show Qatar awards.
The Virgin Australia site is a pain in the butt if looking for premium awards (you need to check each day), so best to look elsewhere first and then cross check.
The fuel surcharges per QF and VA redemptions are mental. They were set several months when fuel as at its peak, now eased substantially, but both QF and VA are price gouging on the back of the peak price.
Sometimes BA shows excellent redemption rates (e.g. SIN-MAD via DOH for 54,000 Avios one way in biz).
Fuel surcharges weren’t being applied on QF redemptions originating in MNL last time I checked – so option to route that way.
Alaska Airlines sometimes will show QR awards when others don’t, although their miles redemption rates are high (but no fuel surcharges).
VA appears to mess with availability on Etihad on some routes where Qatar fly (e.g. MAD-DOH / AUA).
For fuel surcharges read carrier charges….;)
It’s a very fiddly business….
I have some Qantas points that I was hoping to use on a return fly from Europe (Italy or Holland) to Melbourne, Australia.
Can I purchase flights with Qantas points only for Qantas flights? I tried to book Qatar, but I don’t seem to be able to use points for flights, bit rather just add-ons.
Thank you
Hope that helps!
Hi Matt, I can’t find many (if any) seats DOH ADL in J from about 28 October using either QF FF or AAdvantage… Any tips? Asia Miles?
I used qantas text message customer service portal, and they said ‘our fares do not permit the route doha – perth’. Is this a mistake? your guide says 92,000 points for perth to doha. Wouldnt it be the same for Doha to Perth?
Thanks. Andrew.
I’ll be flying return to Europe on Qatar ex Sydney in business class. I’m based in Australia and was wondering which would be the best programme to earn miles on for this trip? I have QF frequent flyers, but wasn’t sure whether it would be better to join another programme to earn points for this trip (I prefer flying virgin in Australia but they’re not aligned with Qatar)
Any advice would be appreciated.
Kevin
I’m Newbie here. I’m an Asia Miles member. If i booked an award flight from BKI – CDG via HKG and ZRH – BKI via HKG for the return leg. How many Asia Miles point need to redeem? Is this consider Open Jaw?
Thank you
I have a newbie question on redeeming QFF point on Qatar flights. You mention above that Qatar flies to Larnaca. I want to book Qatar flights going from Larnaca to Doha to Sydney (using QFF classic award). Larnaca does not seem to even appear on Qantas’ website. Should I still be able to call Qantas to book this route using QFF classic awards (obviously pending Qatar award availability)?
Thank you
George
I will try that way
I’m a newbie in this all (travelling world).
I have at this moment some qatar miles.
How can I best spent them. Do I use them best on using them for qatar tickets, or better for an other oneworld airline for example Qantas?
Plenty of “business promo” and “business award” seats show up on qatar airlines home page search engine, but when you log into Asia miles to redeem using Asia miles, no availabilty for exact same dates…
Why is this do we think??
Mark
I tried today via AA telephone operator and the business award availability showing (for Sydney) is not bookable. They say the awards are visible on their system but Qatar does not allow the booking to go through.
I also tried the Adelaide flights which are showing on the BA website as being available (I tried flights for the end of August 2016).
Again – the AA booking system the operator was using showed the availability but did not allow the booking.
Thinking it might be an operator error – I tried processing the booking via the BA site. It shows an error message similar to the one that shows for CX phantom awards. (Sorry, there’s a problem with booking this journey…..)
Any advise?